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TELL US: Town Meeting to Decide How to Spend $175,000 from Grown Ups 2

Tell us how you think the town should spend the money. The Special Town Meeting is scheduled Oct. 5.

 

The team has left Swampscott, but not without contributing about $300,000 to the town, including $175,000 in cash that the Town Meeting will decide how to spend.

The Special Town Meeting, which includes proposed funding for a study on the district's elementary school building needs, is Oct. 5. 

Thomas Younger told the Board of Selectmen Wednesday night that he is assembling a team of city department heads and a select group of private citizens to offer "some fresh ideas" on how the town might spend the money derived from being host to the Adam Sandler movie.

The issue could be decided at the October Town Meeting, Younger said.

"There is no conspiracy that people will spend the money on their pet projects," said Selectman Jill Sullivan.

Under state law, only the Town Meeting members can allocate the money.

In addition to the cash, the movie has financed some public works projects, is restoring fields and made contributions to the schools, Younger said.

One thing the money will not be used for is to lower the proposed sewer rates for next year.

Selectman David Van Dam proposed that the Town Meeting might use the funds from the movie to lower the rates.

Younger said state law would not allow the town to contribute funds to water and sewer enterprise funds. 

Elihu Smails August 24, 2012 at 10:53 AM
FH is right on, There will be no paving or drainage repairs in precinct 3 and like it.
William R. DiMento August 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Cs is right. Exactly how much in any form of payment was received ? Start there.
Melissa August 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Certainly NOT on parking kiosks!!!!!!!
SwampscottMom August 24, 2012 at 01:12 PM
New Stadium Bleachers and Lights!
Paul August 24, 2012 at 02:15 PM
How about invest it in an intensive traffic enforcement period (say 2/3 weeks) where EVERYONE speeding through our town is ticketed (no warnings); at $50-200 a ticket, we would earn back the $ and most importantly deter the speeders who couldn't care less about the safety of our children. 2000 $100 tickets = $200,000. Of course some would not be paid until the owner has to renew his/her registration/license. I've heard from others here who talk about constant speeding through their neighborhoods, and I'm confident that in an 8 hour shift of traffic enforcement on my street a Police Officer could easily write 75 tickets (never mind what could be written on Routes 1A and 129 in a day). Then we could have this debate all over again 6 months from now (with possibly even more $, and certainly a safer community).
LCj August 24, 2012 at 03:14 PM
A Swampscott Petting Zoo would be awesome. A Swampscott Museum /Art gallery? How about a contest? There are many people in town who could use a portion to start a small business. Since the Train Depot was used in parts of the movie,..why not actually open that nice historic building there? It IS afterall, a Swampscott landmark that is not being used to its full potential..Lets use it.
Fred Hammer August 24, 2012 at 04:32 PM
How about reducing the Town managers pay he comes in at 11 most days people at town hall are pissed off. The selectman met privatley they know they picked the wrong person for the job. He slept during a meeting does anyone care that the highest paid town employee cant stay awake during meetings comes in late leaves early great job Matt you really picked the right guy
David Arsenault August 24, 2012 at 05:46 PM
Parks Paint how about people's homes being flooded? How would like to see your home flooded every year. FIX THE DRAINAGE FIRST!!! http://www.google.com/imgres?q=swampscott+flooding+paradise+road&hl=en&biw=1619&bih=735&tbm=isch&tbnid=Qwl0ATyGJIkuBM:&imgrefurl=http://swampscott.patch.com/articles/top-swampscott-patch-story-in-2011&docid=EqR9mdx9Rnr0OM&imgurl=http://o3.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/PATCH/resize/600x450/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/patch/586f01a0f6d80b32a98a0ee075209103&w=600&h=450&ei=W703UOyDF8Oi6gHss4HoCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=436&vpy=4&dur=496&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=117&ty=129&sig=117226763002358050866&page=2&tbnh=160&tbnw=232&start=35&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:35,i:187
Citizen Swamp August 24, 2012 at 06:06 PM
WRD, It now sounds like the we only receive $175K in cash. Is it possible that the other $125K will be the money spent to replace the fields. It sure wasn't pitched that way. The deal was $275k plus fields returned to a condition "better than they were found". I sensed some mumbling going on at the last BOS meeting. CS
Fred Hammer August 24, 2012 at 06:19 PM
You would have to wake up Younger to tell him he sleeps at most meetings
bob kahn August 24, 2012 at 06:47 PM
How about lowering the tax burden on residents?. I looked up houses for sale in Swampscott and then Zillow and found that houses in general dropped in value about 15% or more since 2005 but the taxes increased by 15% in the same time period. Also, the kiosks for parking fees on Humphrey Street is unfair to merchants on that street since they compete with Vinnin Square merchants who do not charge customers for parking. Also, the town is aggressive in determining ways to tax or charge people but frivolous in spending those monies. Temple Israel cost the town 3.1 million and we'll get 1.8 million from the developer. We did a study on the schools 10 years ago but it never did get a vote ok. Before spending hundreds of thousands on a school study, use the old figures from the study (where the alternatives were close in dollars, update them for current costs, and ask the taxpayers whether they would pay the higher vote to increase their taxes. You could do this at the November election. If the taxpayers don't want the increase, why do the study? Also, the football field. The field renovations would widen the field and eliminate the visitor's stands. It would be almost impossible to increase revenues on friday night games.Also, there has been no evidence that lights would be used for other than 5 friday night games since the rest of the week (except Saturday) are school
bob kahn August 24, 2012 at 06:50 PM
How about lowering the tax burden on residents?. I looked up houses for sale in Swampscott and then Zillow and found that houses in general dropped in value about 15% or more since 2005 but the taxes increased by 15% in the same time period. Also, the kiosks for parking fees on Humphrey Street is unfair to merchants on that street since they compete with Vinnin Square merchants who do not charge customers for parking. Also, the town is aggressive in determining ways to tax or charge people but frivolous in spending those monies. Temple Israel cost the town 3.1 million and we'll get 1.8 million from the developer. We did a study on the schools 10 years ago but it never did get a vote ok. Before spending hundreds of thousands on a school study, use the old figures from the study (where the alternatives were close in dollars, update them for current costs, and ask the taxpayers whether they would pay the higher vote to increase their taxes. You could do this at the November election. If the taxpayers don't want the increase, why do the study? Also, the football field. The field renovations would widen the field and eliminate the visitor's stands. It would be almost impossible to increase revenues on friday night games.Also, there has been no evidence that lights would be used for other than 5 friday night games since the rest of the week (except Saturday) are school nights.
David Arsenault August 24, 2012 at 07:15 PM
Taxes, Schools, streets, fields.... What good does addressing any of this do when people are being flooded from their homes? How much is your property worth after a flood, especially when the flood happens every year. Where are the kids going to go after school or a game after thier home has been flooded? What Good is a newly paved street when it leads to a flooded neighborhood? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Glenn Kessler August 24, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Fellow residents, After reading your comments, I felt compelled to write to you. The issues raised here are all serious and merit the utmost attention. Flooded neighborhoods, parks, fields, road conditions, taxes, and infrastructure affect us all, and I can assure you are being discussed throughout town government. Personally, I encourage and welcome your participation to come before the Board of Selectmen and during resident comment, make clear your concerns. I also invite you to contact me by email to discuss any of the issues you've brought up here (as well as any others). I will answer you. Selectman Van Dam is having office hours on Saturday, September 15th at Whole Foods from 9-10am, and he's invited me to join him to meet with our follow residents. Blogs are important to gauge the pulse of the community regarding hot topic issues, but meeting face to face and having meaningful conversations as friends and neighbors over a cup of coffee is better yet. I hope to see you there.
Chris August 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Flooding!!!
Mark Nemeskal August 25, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Glenn, Thanks for your thoughtful response to all of us here on the patch. One of my utmost concerns is for weekly recycling to start immediately. Can I ask that you respond to that specific question? I believe that you have my e-mail from baseball season. I would attend the WF office hour, but will be out of town at that time. Thanks, Mark Nemeskal
Steve Iannaccone August 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Of all the problems that the Town faces, weekly recycling is not a great need. Some might need it, but not the majority of people. To the extent that the money can't be spent on the water/sewer problem, that's a shame since that project is needed sooner rather than later. If there is one need that I've noted, I think the folks on Paradise Rd which are flooded at most rainstorms ought to have the assessment done, (the money I believe is already allocated for that). It just isn't clear that this $175,000.00 can be used to fix the problem there. I'd like to hear other ideas.
David Arsenault August 25, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Mr. william Dimento had an idea, a retired Land Lawer? He suggested that 40k was not enough to even begin a study. Is that why no study is in progress??? He believes an additional 160k is needed. As a 50yr old Laborer& cancer survivor I have to tell you I cannot continue loosing everything I've worked for to Street Run Off. One of my neighbors already covered up a storm drain on his property and built a raised cement walkway sheding the water from two lots towards my first floor. I could build a wall around my entire property but I care about my neighbors, even if one does something like that. I take it your high and dry you have no idea what this is like and I guess you never had to deal with it. Here is a Idea next time this neighborhood is flooded why don't you come over here and do some clean up.Donate some money to our lost cars, water heaters, washers, dryers and spend some time removing mold infested walls then help in rebuilding. Would you like any other ideas?
Glenn Kessler August 26, 2012 at 12:56 AM
David, Please call me; I just left you my contact information at your home number. Glenn
Susan August 28, 2012 at 02:30 AM
What about the flooding on New Ocean and Pine Street? the Drains everytime it rains do not hold the water it goes up instead of down. It takes tremendous amount of time for water to drain. Everytime it rains we flood and pump. It's not fair. We only 2 people care about keeping the drains clear. DPW is not concerned keeping it flowing. Going everytime it rains around to clear drains day and night. I feel like I am in the olden days with no drains.........
David Arsenault August 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Call Gino, it may just need the catch basin truck.If not then a large pipe layed into the Southbound side of 1A will solve both our problems. Big problem in Holyoke headed our way this morning, just in time for high tide.
pamela boucher August 28, 2012 at 11:30 AM
geez everyone is complaining. swampscott is a nice town but yuo need some industry like a small manufacturing company and a technoloogy firm also. plus the roads on humphrey street and salem street needs to be repaved so i hear the new town manager sleeps on the job. reduce his salary to 40,000 and that will wake him up.
george depaolo August 28, 2012 at 12:53 PM
They could make the 2000 on Essex Street alone, between the High School & Hillcrest Cir. , the speed drops down , but the people cutting through pay NO attention. Great Idea, they should do it regardless of the $$$$$, for safety concerns.
John Reagan August 29, 2012 at 12:23 PM
C'mon folks....$175,000 isn't going to fix drainage problems, fill all the potholes or solve speeding problems. These are issues that require study, planning and a whole lot more money. Having almost fallen through a gaping hole in the floor of the pressbox at Blocksidge Field yesterday, I would love to propose that Town Meeting set up a revolving account for maintenance at Phillips Park. But again, some problems require long term fixes. How about we take the symbolic step of simply lowering the tax rate? Just a few pennies lower, but lower just the same. Let's send the clear message that we will no longer spend money just because there is money to be spent and if there is extra money, that it be used to lower the tax burden. Wouldn't it be fun to be able to rebut your Marblehead friends when they chide you on the taxes we pay in Swampscott with the comment that "at least our taxes are heading in the right direction".
george depaolo August 29, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Well said.........
David Arsenault August 29, 2012 at 04:25 PM
"Study, planning alot of money", So spend, spend, spend on " Pot holes, speeding and park maintenance". You must be another one who's high&dry. So when the drainage is fixed the newly paved streets with all new base and top coats can be ripped up? Sounds like a good plan. Maybe a few speeding citations are what people who are driving to endanger need. As for your parks do you really think a recreation area should take priority over someone's home. Your statements here are selfish IMO. Yes money should be spent on drainage when families homes are being destroyed to Town Street run off. Just So you know my neighborhood is forming a associaton and seeking a lawfirm to deal with future issues and the outcome will probably cost the town more than 175k. As for that # not being enough to fix the problem a Pipe layed on the south bound side of 1A may be as little as 150k.
A+ Schools August 29, 2012 at 05:54 PM
David, I read your comments and stayed quiet. Your last post is plain dumb. If you are so unhappy MOVE. I too was effected by flooding and I live on a &*%$# hill!! This was the third time for me. I feel your pain. However, you are acting like a child. If you expect any help from the town your comments aren't going to work. As an FYI, your $150,000 estimate is also silly. Adding a small home addition is basically $150k. Digging up the road, laying gravel, new piping, reconnecting and completing the job sounds more like $500,000/$750,000 at a minimum. Additionally, Route 1A is a state road. The town DOES NOT have jurisdiction. Just a thought, IMO, try the carrot instead of the stick. I was on your side, but your tone has lost me and others I have spoken with. You are NOT the only person with a challenge.
Ernie Street August 29, 2012 at 06:00 PM
The Recreation Department has a revolving account loaded with money. Why not spend something to fix the Preesbox? As a resident of Humphrey Street, we need to prioritize before putting this money towards fields, Humphrey is in bad shape and they are only scheduled to fix part of it. How about other roads? Forest Street near the Middle School? 175K won't go far but it will send a message that the Town is willing to do something!
David Arsenault August 29, 2012 at 09:26 PM
"&*%$#", that mean your mad? Move and make it someone else's problem? 3rd time for you 6th for me and not in a house built on a hill that can be corrected. You don't feel my pain how many operations have you had to continue working? I don't expect anything I write to help, that's why we are forming a assn. and seeking a law firm. The 150k estimate was not mine but a coworker in the highway dept, we are both laborers. He suggested to stop paying taxes! State Rd I know that, It's fills up with town Street Run Off and then ends up in our homes, 1-5ft deep depending. Why hasn't the town& State done anything in over 50yrs? On my Side it's not just me but 9 other neighbors as well. I know not everyone in this town cares about others. There's 1 neighbor who coverd up a storm with cement and disguised it to be a walkway sheding water from two lots into my and other neighbor's home. Only person/a challege? Are you fighting for your home or is your agenda a field or paved road? I would never sell to a unexpecting family. I guess you are like the neighbor who covers up drains.
LargeBlue August 30, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Maybe every neighborhood should form an asociation. Maybe the town would look like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAWIZFqE6L4

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