Town Meeting Says School Feasibility Study A Go

The study on Swampscott's elementary school needs is expected to take 6-9 months.


The School Building Committee chairman said a vote for the $500,000 school feasibility and schematic design study was a vote for answers to pressing questions about Swampscott's elementary school needs.

"We need the answers at some point and we have an opportunity to get those answers now," he said, speaking to Town Meeting voters in the high school auditorium on Monday night.

The Town Meeting voters agreed.

The room was a sea of raised hands after the meeting moderator asked who was in favor of Article 2, the feasibility study.

Earlier, the Building Committee's chairman, Joe Crimmins, went to lengths to assure the room that a yes vote came without obligation — beyond the town's portion of the study's cost.

It would not obligate the town to build a new school but would give residents information on options and costs to meet the town's elementary school needs.

And it would tell the town what option the state is willing to partially fund; and it would keep the town in line to receive that funding.

Based on earlier statements from the committee it is appears likely the option the state will endorse, and be willing to fund, is construction of a new school.

Crimmins threw out a rough estimate on the cost of a new school — 25-35 million dollars.

On Monday speakers including Town Meeting members Neil Bernstein and Matt Strauss endorsed the study saying it made sound financial sense.

One, to get funding for a study that would be helpful regardless of whether the town decided to support the study's recommendation.

And, two, to remain eligible for Massachusetts School Building Authority funding for a school project.

Bernstein, a former School Committee member, said Hadley and other Swampscott schools were at the end of their days.

Speaker Deborah Shelkan Remis asked if the study would look at the condition of the Swampscott Middle School?

Crimmins said it would not.

Speaking against the proposal, Martin Goldman asked meeting members to table the study question.

He said that the appropriation should be put before the Capital Improvements Committee, he said.

But supporters said there was no time for bringing the study to the improvement panel since the state needs to know by the first week in November whether the town supports the feasbility study.

Article 2 asked for $500,000 for the study, 45 percent of which the state will reimburse.

The study is expected to take about 6-9 months.

After Town Meeting, Joe Crimmins said the School Building Committee did its homework and reached out to meeting members who came to Monday night's proceedings informed.

School Committee Chairman Larry Beaupre, also a member of the School Building Committee, said Monday's strong support was a huge endorsement of the schools and the students.

"We couldn't be more delighted," he said.

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AmyO October 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Great job School Building Committee! This is some positive news for Swampscott and it's crumbling infrastructure. Hopefully the same amount of preparedness will occur with other similar projects.
David Arsenault October 16, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Great news for the committee, Bad news for Swampscott because the Infrastructure is crumbling or inadequate. http://www.google.com/imgres?q=clay+sewer+pipe&num=10&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=620&tbm=isch&tbnid=65W5G_c8YALEsM:&imgrefurl=http://logicdrain.hubpages.com/hub/The-Home-Guide-to-Sewer-Issues&docid=smneb4-A3eE_ZM&imgurl=http://s2.hubimg.com/u/5128421_f520.jpg&w=520&h=390&ei=dnh9UIyUMMLv0gGhgIEQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=864&vpy=313&dur=6212&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=144&ty=118&sig=108210659081898454509&page=1&tbnh=153&tbnw=200&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0,i:104 Clay pipes were discontinued in the 70's! Swampscott Selectman do not want to face the real problems http://www.google.com/imgres?q=flooding+swampscott&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=620&tbm=isch&tbnid=Qwl0ATyGJIkuBM:&imgrefurl=http://swampscott.patch.com/articles/top-swampscott-patch-story-in-2011&docid=EqR9mdx9Rnr0OM&imgurl=http://o3.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/PATCH/resize/600x450/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/patch/586f01a0f6d80b32a98a0ee075209103&w=600&h=450&ei=RXp9UMWXOsng0gG8wIEY&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=842&vpy=264&dur=1879&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=145&ty=92&sig=108210659081898454509&page=3&tbnh=146&tbnw=197&start=42&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:44,s:20,i:263 These projects will never get the same preparedness, "Prudent to wait"!
A+ Schools October 16, 2012 at 06:14 PM
David, at some point you will either need to stop your constant nonsense, or get a lawyer and sue the Town. But, it is getting very tiring reading the same things over and over and over and over again. And, yes, I was flooded too.
David Arsenault October 16, 2012 at 07:27 PM
As long as the flodding continues over and over and over again I will continue http://www.google.com/imgres?q=baby+shaking+a+rattle+cartoon&um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=620&tbm=isch&tbnid=8aw1nlRXQfPQlM:&imgrefurl=http://www.graphicsfactory.com/Clip_Art/People/Kids/baby_x00212_158652.html&docid=S3jpbY4VXsxzzM&imgurl=http://cdn.graphicsfactory.com/clip-art/image_files/image/6/716496-baby_x00212.gif&w=250&h=397&ei=t7F9UNfFLOS90QG504GYCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=211&vpy=109&dur=3457&hovh=283&hovw=178&tx=125&ty=125&sig=114487242279317990881&page=1&tbnh=147&tbnw=93&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:71 I didn't ask if you were flooded but since you brought it up we had 8 in my area this summer how many were you live and was it street run off? Plus do you have any photos to share I had the local news crews photographing my http://www.google.com/imgres?q=swampscott+flooding&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=620&tbm=isch&tbnid=a8ngKY9X6J_tKM:&imgrefurl=http://boston.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2011/10/04/north-shore-flooding/&docid=uN1Xik2j9j1VyM&imgurl=http://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/swampscott-k-4.jpg%253Fw%253D620&w=620&h=465&ei=c7R9UKuCMMS60AH7yoHACg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=294&vpy=149&dur=1245&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=150&ty=94&sig=114487242279317990881&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=169&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:74
A+ Schools October 16, 2012 at 07:35 PM
My loss was $12,500!!!! No insurance!! Mother's Day storm several years ago, loss $43,000, plus flooding caused a fire (insurance covered 59%).
David Arsenault October 16, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Again how many this yr?," TOWN STREET RUN OFF"? I only asked to see pics because I'm curious to see what your talking about, I.E. Street run off or ledge water? Now that you've brought up monetary issues. Town street run off has costed me 130k over the past 8yrs, (What the Ins. didn't cover).You mentioned 43k that's what I make in a year, (sometimes less), I'm a laborer and 50yrs old. Wear that hat and tell me you wouldn't be fuming about giving "ALL" your $$$ to a town/State gov. to act as their retention pond. Then get charged another 12k a yr to eat all this water over and over and over again.
Ernie Byers October 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM
David, can you share your street so other people with the same problems can see that it is in more than one area of town? I've been led to believe it's only one area of town that is suffering, I guess that is not the case?
Dano October 18, 2012 at 04:36 PM
David. We know ALL about your flooding issue. I can assure you! I agree with Allen, I am sick of the negative, excessively long and off topic comments. Option 1 - Sell your home and move to another home without flooding issues. Option 2 - Sue the Town Option 3 - Petition to Town Meeting to get funding for the improvements. It requires a certain amount of signatures to get on the warrant and of course a Town Meeting vote. Other than that please stop complaining! I really do feel bad for you but I don't want to read about it everyday. Thanks and good luck.
powderpuff79 October 18, 2012 at 04:46 PM
i vote for Option 1
John October 18, 2012 at 06:28 PM
I second Jerry Crowbar !!
David Arsenault October 18, 2012 at 06:34 PM
You guys make a great team... Dano& Jerry Crowbar how original http://www.google.com/imgres?q=original+danno+hawaii+5-+book+em+danno&start=100&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1441&bih=654&tbm=isch&tbnid=Sue2dbdEtAH-1M:&imgrefurl=http://rosie2010.hubpages.com/hub/Hawaii-Five-O-Book-em-Danno&docid=h-2blfpBUhm1IM&imgurl=http://s4.hubimg.com/u/4211171_f520.jpg&w=520&h=369&ei=fkqAUMfLJMav0AH0koCoAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=737&vpy=352&dur=2061&hovh=189&hovw=267&tx=71&ty=141&sig=116269674887513469267&page=5&tbnh=130&tbnw=195&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:100,i:31 http://www.google.com/imgres?q=jerry+crowbar&num=10&hl=en&biw=1441&bih=654&tbm=isch&tbnid=siloH3xxZ0TAAM:&imgrefurl=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/943142-abandoned-the-history-of-the-wcw-hardcore-championship&docid=WW3qdgzCPwaB3M&imgurl=http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/569/102/Crowbar_display_image.jpg%253F1321459306&w=350&h=263&ei=R0uAUKejOuSB0QGdyoDACQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1011&vpy=69&dur=5248&hovh=195&hovw=259&tx=212&ty=144&sig=116269674887513469267&page=2&tbnh=168&tbnw=259&start=19&ndsp=33&ved=1t:429,r:30,s:20,i:225
David Arsenault October 19, 2012 at 12:11 AM
http://swampscott.patch.com/articles/historical-photo-then-and-now-asks-when-bd5dfdf0 Hey let's build a new school! Everything under this town is http://www.google.com/imgres?q=ass+backwards&hl=en&biw=1441&bih=654&tbm=isch&tbnid=IBGYk3tKECnS4M:&imgrefurl=http://anthro-hooves.deviantart.com/art/Ass-Backwards-ZellaL-37641017&docid=lleIjYzWOESrSM&imgurl=http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs11/i/2006/220/9/7/Ass_Backwards___ZellaL_by_Anthro_Hooves.png&w=656&h=541&ei=75mAULL1I8L00gGv-IDQCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=437&vpy=336&dur=7213&hovh=204&hovw=247&tx=198&ty=136&sig=108814933435900289280&page=1&tbnh=149&tbnw=180&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:0,i:116
A+ Schools October 19, 2012 at 02:14 AM
Hey David....Please stop.
powderpuff79 October 19, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Agreed. It's past embarrassing. Like he just discovered how these intertubes work, or something.
David Arsenault October 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Over http://swampscott.patch.com/articles/historical-photo-then-and-now-asks-when-bd5dfdf0 and http://o3.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/PATCH/resize/600x450/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/patch/c0a27625468f8b5ae94f12ddbd39b1aa and http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MAZ007&warncounty=MAC009&firewxzone=MAZ007&local_place1=&product1=Hazardous+Weather+Outlook
David Arsenault October 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM
75yrs & not 1 flooding area has been upgraded, Now Buddy that's embarrissing. It's not 1937 anymore the town can get loans/grants and help from the state to solve this. Instead they have meeetings about building new schools, Parks,condo's and Parking meters. It's like http://www.google.com/imgres?q=town+of+redbud+funny+farm&um=1&hl=en&biw=1441&bih=654&tbm=isch&tbnid=Gq57OILOVYG32M:&imgrefurl=http://hookedonhouses.net/2009/12/27/funny-farm-chevy-chases-cape-cod-in-the-country/&docid=27lxsDXhEuqMAM&imgurl=http://hookedonhouses.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ice-skating-on-the-pond-512x384.jpg&w=512&h=384&ei=d0qBUMXBC_G-0QHC5oCIDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=428&vpy=207&dur=537&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=120&ty=90&sig=112080948377530369871&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=181&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:76 but this is no movie.
powderpuff79 October 19, 2012 at 01:05 PM
what grants? where? which agencies? who are the contacts? i expect to see specific links, since you are so adept at the internet
David Arsenault October 19, 2012 at 01:47 PM
Ask Aaron Reams, he specializes in finance, it's his job. He has already brought it up at the meeting http://swampscott.patch.com/articles/selectmen-tell-administrator-to-move-ahead-with-flooding-study You will see his name in that, when I last talked with him he said he wants to get a lawyer involved if the town keeps dodging this. If you do talk to him you will get the impression that he definatly knows what he's talking about and he doesn't take any http://www.google.com/imgres?q=crap&num=10&hl=en&biw=1441&bih=654&tbm=isch&tbnid=sJV_Hu5NuAyYyM:&imgrefurl=http://www.jokeroo.com/pictures/funny/hugecrappile.html&docid=gJ9dQ8DQF9AL3M&imgurl=http://cl.jroo.me/z3/y/t/a/a/a.aaa.jpg&w=507&h=630&ei=vVmBUL73Kobl0QGXp4CoAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=905&vpy=157&dur=549&hovh=250&hovw=201&tx=87&ty=79&sig=115201390586145743114&page=1&tbnh=140&tbnw=107&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:110 (your link)
powderpuff79 October 19, 2012 at 04:38 PM
so, i'm sorry: what grants? where? which agencies? or were you just talking out your http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1440&bih=779&tbm=isch&tbnid=13hLZ9ihZlAj7M:&imgrefurl=http://www.coopernundrums.com/2009/02/sorry-government-does-not-stimulate-me/head-up-ass/&docid=3XsN3nhAJBGN9M&imgurl=http://www.coopernundrums.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/head-up-ass.jpg&w=357&h=421&ei=2oGBUNH1NMP30gHaxoD4Ag&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=130&vpy=89&dur=2063&hovh=244&hovw=208&tx=78&ty=108&sig=112452646800260824198&page=5&tbnh=159&tbnw=147&start=83&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:63,s:20,i:328
David Arsenault October 19, 2012 at 05:29 PM
I like it now your learning to use your intertubes! http://www.google.com/imgres?q=smiles&num=10&hl=en&biw=1441&bih=654&tbm=isch&tbnid=AymskX_wkzFCeM:&imgrefurl=http://letubeu.com/2011/08/03/how-to-be-happy-the-science-research-of-happiness/&docid=nPi6YwM4KooOKM&imgurl=http://letubeu.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/smile.jpg&w=313&h=317&ei=MI2BUJCCOKTX0QHBvoC4Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=927&vpy=315&dur=2804&hovh=226&hovw=223&tx=123&ty=184&sig=102217773342412671160&page=3&tbnh=137&tbnw=135&start=48&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:46,s:20,i:339 Be happy bro.
Lisa October 24, 2012 at 04:23 PM
I don't blame him those poor people shouldn't have to live in fear every time there's a storm!
Bob Sherriff October 25, 2012 at 04:50 PM
Sure makes me proud to be a Swampscottian!!!!


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