Elizabeth Warren will do what is in her self interest, and join the other liberal elite in DC. She may help the tribe though. Anyone who can blatantly lie about their background like that, and have socialist views deserves to stay home. In fact, she should withdraw from the race.

I don't know. Brown currently ahead in the polls. Real middle of the road guy, most conservatives don't like him, but that could work in his favor. BTW, have you tried Lizzie's recipe in the Pow Wow cook book. Also at Market Basket and elsewhere, those, like me, who voted for hope and change, say they never will again, cops, firefighters, working class. Don't give up. If we were freezing in Valley Forge, whom you have been a fair weather patriot?

The fact that the Native American nonissue seems to be your only defense proves that Elizabeth Warren is truly a strong candidate. Scott Brown voted with the Republicans 93% of the time (which quickly dropped to 54% when Warren entered the race) and he was voted Wall Street's favorite Senator. Seems pretty middle of the road to me? Also, the polls at tied at 46-46.

that's an old poll, did you see PPP, Brown ahead, outside the margin of error. no an old issue, her recently released, this week mother's birth certificate showed she is no indian but a liar, like all dems that have nothing to run on. move to china or russia. just wait until nov, 1980 all over again. americans are smarter than this, unless your on food stamps, welfare, government programs and made dependent by the 1%er's, dems, Kerry, Schumer, Dirty Harry, Botox Pelosi......like they really know what these people feel, hypocrites, liars, obsense record. get your facts straight first jennifer.

My dear Katie, you sound like a really nice young lady just beginning to find your way in this world. I truly envy your youth and vigor. Having said that I believe that your life as well as mine should be guided by truth. Ms. Warren has been anything but truthful to the people of mass. She has continuously lied to you and all of us about her heritage and it is truly remarkable that she has not come clean on that issue. Unfortunately it does not stop there for her. When she lied about her heritage she took a job away from someone who really was a minority at that time, therefore she actually hurt the people she now says she stands up for. Ms. Warren also preyed on people who could not afford their homes and foreclosed on them and sold them at a profit for herself. Katie these are facts and I know they are stubborn things but we all must live by them. One more thing Katie, I don't know who taught you that education is a right not a privilege but they were wrong. we all need to work for what we want in this world, is water a right? is food a right? is shelter a right? is clothing a right? These are all things we need to sustain our lives. There is no substitution for hard work and being kind to others. It's how this wonderful country was born and will continue to thrive in the future God willing. Best of luck to you

A College education is not a right and neither is home ownership. They are both investments and obligations which require responsible stewardship. Rights come with responsibilities they are bestowed by Barney Frank or Elizabeth Warren! Elizabeth Warren did NOTHING to reinstate the Glass Steagall Act while she was helping draft the Frank Dodd banking regulations and she knew the rest was just window dressing that would make it look like something had been done to protect consumers. Meanwhile JP Morgan just gambled away billions more thanks that Cracker-Jack consumer protection bureau!

(NOT bestowed)...oops!

*A woman... a daughter... AND a granddaughter"?

You make an interesting point Katie. You are being set up to pay for the mistakes of the last twelve years. Those who now speak of personal responsibility are the ones handing you the bill for the debt they ran up before you were old enough to vote.

Elizabeth Warren stands for affordable education, investment in infrastructure, investment in manufacturing and research, women's rights, and reduced health care costs. Regardless of the mess we now find ourselves in, these are the positions we need to embrace going forward.

Ordinary people like us need someone we can count on to represent our interests and Warren is that person.

Obama is running up debt like a drunken sailor. He makes Bush look like a school kid, unsustainable. Not to mention, why would we believe anything Lizzie's says, POW WOW, and she continues despite her mother's birth certificate.

This is truly a riveting dialogue among well informed, "common sense" voters intent on putting our great country "back on track" through thoughtful criticism of Ms. Genervosa-Wong's articulate support of Elizabeth Warren. Can anyone remind me of all that Scott Brown has done for me as a state senator? Apparently, he has changed my life in some significant way, has "integrity," and knows how to put the country "back on track" to avoid becoming a country like Greece, which has a GDP less than that of New York City. Please, remind me of everything he's done. Remind me of all the "privileges" he has helped me attain through his hard work. So far, I have seen only commercials telling me how much he loves his his wife, a member of the elite liberal media.

Her lack of Native American Heritage was not her only lie. Warren stated she was a nursing mother when she sat for the New Jersey bar exam, in itself an accomplishment to be proud of. But the sociopathic nature of her personality couldn't let that achievement speak for itself, she had to further aggrandize herself by saying she was the first woman to do so. A spokesperson for the NJ bar said women have been sitting for the bar exam in NJ since 1895 and no records were kept of who may have been nursing when they sat. The spokesperson said Warren had no factual basis to make that claim. She 'contributed" to the Pow Wow Chow cookbook. Turns out, the 3 recipes she submitted were plagiarized from the creativity of others, one being a French Chef in NYC during the 60's. Ms Warren has a propensity to steal the ideas & work of others, create facts, & even steal the heritage of others for her own advancement. She claimed her parents eloped because of her father's family dislike of her mother's native American heritage. Turns out they married in a hall 14 miles away and had a reception attended by both sides of the family. Ms Warren, to advance her narative & cover her lies, disparaged her fathers family by suggesting they were racists. Ms Warren said her family was poor, on the knife's edge of poverty. Yet it was revealed that she drove a white MG to high school & that her family owned three cars in the late 60's and early 70's. She shouldn't represent us in the US Senate.

One other point to consider. The lies that I wrote about above, were all spun in a matter of a a few months to cover a lifetime of lies. Ms Warren is a compulsive liar and I think we all can rest assure that there will be a least a dozen more lies she will be caught up in before the November election. The woman can't help herself....medacity is ingrained in her nature.

Wow! Do people thrive on trash talk on this site. Warren is as described by the lady who knows her. She is a genuine non establisent force that can be believed. Brown has done nothing to point to for anyone who really checks the data. Political hype needs extensive fact checking.

Facts are good things to build an assessment with. High winded extreme shouting is an embarrassment for the speakers of such bluster...... Invincibly ignorant describes them well

Social justice should drive our thoughts here. We are a land of wealth. We are not good at sharing that wealth.
The conservatives sound a little like selfish old codgers .
It should be a crime as much as it is a moral outrage that they are so willing to look the other way at the sufferings of others. Warren pays attention to this. Obama pays attention to this. Life can be a lonely and difficult passage for anyone . A hand held out to brace or help should be every ones daily goal.

Sean, Archie, Lexi , and Lenny.

You should switch to decaf

Nobody has posted anything about Scott Brown's accomplishments. I understand that he has spent a lot of time with kings and queens, and that his daughters are currently covered under the provisions of the Affordable Care Act (so cleverly called "Obamacare" by the non-elite media), which he wants to overturn. But again, I ask my question, what concrete steps has Senator Brown taken to prevent us from becoming like Greece (gasp)? Please no more on how Elizabeth Warren plagiarized recipes; it's simply too much to bear.

Senator Brown has not taken "concrete steps to avoid becoming Greeced because nobody in the Senate has been given the opportunity to vote on a budget. Democrats have not produced one in 3.5 years & Reid won't allow a vote on the budgets presented by House Republicans. Mr Condon, your sentiments about social justice are admirable ones, but they are hallow when the resources to offer a social safety net dwindle by the day because of failed policies by the current gov. 42% of working age American's no longer work, mostly through no fault of their own. The tax base has shrunk as a result. You can argue the smaller points of where the dwindling resources should be spent, but social justice is best served when the able-bodied has a job. The policies of Obama & a would be Senator Warren are counter to that. They are like gamblers who swear that lending them another $20 for the 2nd race will solve their financial problems. The 857 billion dollar stimulus wasn't enough, they tell us if we only borrow just a little more from the chinese, or our children, or print a little more money, or tax a few more rich people then the world would be right again. And as far as Warren goes, she is a sociopath...the evidence is clear that she can't help herself but to lie and exaggerate her life. How could anyone have faith that she will suddenly start telling the truth if elected to the Senate? Remember, those lies were all spun in a matter of months..how many would she pack into 6 years?

Your a good man Lenny, the dems lie with arrogance. If they say it enough, people will believe it. They don't care about the 99%, they are all one per centers. Kerry doesn't pay tax on his boat, how many homes, Pelosi, besides needing to be excommunicated, multi-million dollar house winery, Dirty Harry Reid lives in the Ritz, POTUS and Moooshel worth millions. And these people are buying it. Do their kids want to be saddled with thousands of dollars in public debt? Get real people.

Why all the personal attacks? Political policy & direction of the country worth intelligent discussion. Recipies, heritage vs. kings and queens and posing naked are the start of silly season. We could all keep that dialouge going forever. Character assasination can go both ways and gets us no where. Romney and Brown are not interested in growing the middle class and getting this country back on track. Bush and the Republicans created our econonmic problems. The lack of accountability is startling. The elitism lies within a political system that reduces regulation and then sets up corporate welfare while middle class Americans are squeezed. Stop the name calling and vote your issues with intellectual honesty and understanding. Can we agree that both candidates are personally qualified to represent us -- politics are not a popularity contest.

Sean
Get off the "liar ! Liar! Pants on fire " train. Personal invectives do nothing to advance the argument . Susan is on target! Big Blue as well. They are fact based opinions that resonate truly ...

You must be having Rushbo over for lunch today. Tell him hello , for us.

And let's not forget the continuing legacy of Bush's un funded wars in Iraq and Afghanistan .... That meter running continuously more than contributed to our current budget conflicts....than food stamps. Bush could have benefitted from a policy review from the late and not so great Soviet Union which was bankrupted by its Afghan exploits, in addition to its multidued of other issues.

And read today's Globe magazine to see just how well NYC is doing . Ooops sorry, that would be exposing you to some well researched facts. My bad.

Yes, NYC is doing well, thank you Rudy Guiliani. I am not sure what any of you mean by accusing others of insults. A few of you here referred to some of us as "selfish old codgers", that whe should"switch to decaf", etc. And no, I don't agree that both are qualified to be US Senator. Brown has shown that he is qualified. He has been rated as one of the hardest working senators in the chamber. He has introduced more bills than most of the senior members and his attendance record is amongst the highest. Ms Warren has proven to be untruthful, a plagiariser, an intellectual thief, and a dubious "box checker" . Look, here is the thing. You folks on the left are stuck with her. I get that. But she will at least vote the way the Democratic leadership tells her to which fits into what you feel is best for your values. But you have to accept the obvious, that because of her serious flaws as a candidate and a person, for as long as she represents your side, Ms Warren and those that support her, will have to suffer through my side pointing out those flaws because they are inescapable. I know you all know that, even if it is hard to admit. President Nixon was an albatross around the necks of conservatives for many, many years, but the difference was he didn't become so until about the 6th year of his Presidency. Ms Warren's troubled character is know by all of us before she has been given the chance to join the government. Hopefully she won't be given that chance.

Lenny

Good reasoned response. Enjoy your Sunday.

Oops,,,forgot to trash would be presidential candidate Guliani who suffers from an acute case of EPS (Errant Pecker Syndrome) as described by the American Society of Psychology. Sad case with fatal implications.

I am still waiting to learn about Scott Brown's accomplishments. So far, I have learned that he "has taken concrete steps to avoid becoming Greeced" [sic, or is this a new verb?], and that he has introduced more bills than senior senators and always shows up for class. That's a little vague, and it's apparent that several of you are extremely knowledgeable about politics. Please, enumerate his triumphs.

Yes, it is a new verb professor.

Senator Brown has introduced and sponsored 39 pieces of legislation. It was too extensive to list here (I tried). Not that those of you voting for the fake Indian will bother to look at it, but here is the link nonetheless http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=412384
He sponsored the bill to bar Congress from trading on insider knowledge which is still stuck in committee because of Reid's opposition. He also sponsored S.Res. 110: A resolution to require that all legislative matters be available and fully scored by CBO 48 hours before consideration by any subcommittee or committee of the Senate or on the floor of the Senate. That bill has not been passed because it would require Democrats to consider math before passing a bill, a premise that is alien to them. He also sponsored the "Stolen Valor Act" ...still pending and subject to failure particularly if Warren wins because she might worry about being the test case.

Oh and Mr Condon, you were obviously joking with the "errant pecker syndrome, as described by the American Society of Psychology" , but I must admit you drove to their website to check if there was such a recognized syndrome. I didn't want to acknowledge your joke until I positive that there was no such recognized syndrome, at least by the ASP. Guiliani was a great mayor........Detroit, Newark, and Lawrence Ma could use a guy like him. Visiting NYC in 1988, and then in 1998...the difference was stark. People were happy, felt safe, and the city was fiscally sane and vibrant. Rahm Emmanuel would do well to consult with Rudy, as Chicago is becoming a cesspool of unfettered violence.

Lenny

You are a good soul. Thanks for checking out my EPS slider. It is a favorite term of mine and actually should be recognized by the stodgy APA. None of these public figures seems to be without human flaws. We can joke about them......

I spentv30 years in Ct where our Governor, and several mayors were shipped off to various jails. The former republican mayor of Waterbury ,who was raised in Venezuala, remains in prison. The former mayor of Bridgeport is now devoted to
helping former inmates.

The former republican governor is about to be reindited, and perhaps tried on new charges of corruption.

Makes our dialogue about Scott Brown and Elizabeth Warren small potatoes!

Have great Sunday evening

Regards !

I would be happy to my dear Bridget, it has been in the herald for a couple of weeks in june. Just google it my dear but remember Elizabeth warren doesn't think the herald is a real newspaper

Not many others do either. It was a great newspaper before it went tabloid. Suffers from the same credibility issues as the good old Record American, and of course the alen invasion headlines featured in most tabloid journalism at the super market check out stands.

Bridget

Good work! Sorry you had to read the Herald. Bad way to start your week

Here you go Bridget. Did anyone actually think they were going to see the Globe reporting on Warren's predatory house flipping? It was reported on the Huffington Post which I thought would please half the posters to this story, but as typical of the Huffington Post, they only linked to the Herald article (Ariana made a fortune off of the work of others and not paying them for it ...maybe she is related to Warren..on the Cherokee side?). But I found this link from Yahoo. I'll be interested to see how folks whitewash this. http://news.yahoo.com/harsh-foreclosure-critic-elizabeth-warren-reportedly-made-fortune-050708111.html

Katie I applaud your courage in posting your opinion. Unfortunately you have a glimpse now of what the wonderful world of politics is like. I hope and pray that you always check the facts on people's statements before believing them. Also be sure to not just use one source for your news - read a few sources and include some that are from the right and some for the left and form your own independent decision. You are right, Elizabeth Warren is for you, a young woman in college. Scott Brown voted against the student loan interest freeze at a time when college graduates can barely get a job in their field. http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/05/scott_brown_votes_against_demo.html

Bridget, Harvard has a stake in this matter. They continued to report to the Federal Government Ms Warren as being a minority faculty member. Harvard has refused to release her job application and they certainly won't release the recommendations of the search and hiring committees. But what is your point anyway, that just because Harvard MAY not have intially consider her mendacious claim of Native American Heritage in hiring her, that makes it all ok? While us, the hoi poloi, have no way to ascertain whether Harvard employed her on the basis of her false claim, it is indisputable that they certainly used her phony status in reporting minority representation on the faculty to the government, right? Bridget, it would be best to just stick with your assertion that Ms Warren better represents your values than Scott Brown does and will vote in a way you favor. But you are descending into the muck with Ms Warren when you try to defend her lack of character. Just say "Yes, she is a filthy liar, she has always been a liar, but she will vote they way I prefer so that is why I will vote for her". We understand that you folks are stuck with her. Khazei would have been a better candidate, but it is too late now. Those of us that come from my vantage point would understand that, but you can't possibly think you are going to persuade anyone that Warren possesses a character that exceeds that of Senator Brown, it is impossible after her numerous public displays of untruthfulness.

Thank you so much Bridget for showing the incredible bias that the left have become so synonymous with, I as a conservative will gladly read the globe full well knowing that it is clearly slanted to the the left but you Bridget well, your way to smart and worldly to read such a rag as the boston Herald. You must be so proud that you have something in common with Elizabeth Warren. Tell me Bridget do you have native american blood in you as well?

Lenny
Man you are grouchy today. Did you try that decaf?
Warren flipped houses in the early 1990's , actually 19 years ago when the banks were our friends and good buddies. I wish I had been as wise as Warren to get into the buty low sell higher mode. It was all about market forces, and dynamics. Very traditionally American. Actually very traditionally republican, and a well respected practice.

I a m sure we do all rember the banks going rogue in 2008 . Getting caught up in their questionalble accounting scams and raiding our pension funds by the market devaluation. Their profit margins did not reflect their bad business practices in the long run. And in the year 2012, the can truly be called predators as they have devasted retirement plans , while they ate first, leaving the rest of us scratching our skulls. Wanting to know what happened

Elizabeth Warren missed that big feast by 15 years. If our mother brother or sister had been as quick in their feet to participate in the fix up and flip wave of the early 90's we would all be giving them the high five.

Let's once again keep the facts straight here. The banking industry she is knocking has become Edward Hyde

Lexi

Your comment priveleges have been suspended

Brian,
The decaf has helped, except I can't seem to rub the sand out of my eyes. Buying foreclosed properties is a good thing. It props up neighborhoods, strenghthens values, etc. It is just that Ms Warren rails against others flipping mortgages and properties. I don't think there is anything wrong with what she did, it just that she would find something wrong with it if I did it. First the banks were "red-lining", so the government decides to intervene in the market to force lenders to lend to people who were clearly credit risks. Then when housing collapsed, it was no longer red-lining that was the problem, it then became predatory lending. The same cabal of leftist do-gooders who complained that banks weren't loaning money to poor people were the same people who complained that banks lent money to poor people.
And for all you people out there who still think the problem was that banks weren't regulated enough, you have it all backwards. It was because the banks were over regulated...forced by the government to offer risky loans, that the housing bubble occured. Remember over-regulation caused the meltdown, not lack of regulation.

All good points, but in the final analysis, it is a matter of opinion. I may be wrong, but I thuoght that Clinton(another EPS victim) had deregulated the banking industry to allow them to , in effect , have greater latitude to make the risky loans in the 90's . But I am old and forgetful

Welllllllllll, suppression of free speech is really a dictatorial fascist approach....sort of Bush era reaction to ugly news. Unless the babble you are hoping to quell is sort of the Glen Beck Rushbo version of their distorted news reporting.......then it is a very humane response...for the rest of us easily led sheep

Lenny
Very well presented....there is a small herd of qualified guilty parties. Good research.

Lexi

You remain on suspension

Bridget

Get your news on Comedy Central! You would be pleasantly surprised how spot ion the analysis can be. Stewart and Colbert get right to the issues with satire and irony. And you do not get that messy ink all over your fingers

Bridget

You are in a good place.

Why do you feel the need to criticize this young woman for simply writing an informative and interesting letter on something she strongly believes in. As another young adult interested and involved in politics if this ever happened to me I would be incredibly disappointed that no one really supported their claim with evidence. Rather than condemning her for speaking her mind you should be happy that a young adult is taking an initiative to get involved in the politics of this all so incredible country. Instead of supporting her or simply showing her articles that she should read to inform her more on the subject, you attack her mercilessly. You should have been an adult and been polite about it. Now I understand some people have been polite but to those who haven't been you should be ashamed and realize you're the reason many kids are becoming turned off to politics. Please rethink the way you have acted and maybe the next young adult will not be as bombarded with insults as this intellectual young woman has been. Thank you for time and please less rude.

AC996
There were many of this extended chat who supported her and gave her credit for stating her beliefs. The anger level however was a hiip shot from a scatter gun. As much as we disagree with them , they are afforded their moments in the sun. The sarcasm, and bluster were a bit overdone

Your self-criticism is duly appreciated. :-)

Cute

Professor Elizabeth Warren started her campaign last year arriving by limo at the Broadway T stop and said she'll be actively courting the "hick" vote in Boston. Elizabeth has a net worth of almost 8 million dollars and a large stock profile. She associates herself with the general public with her Indian background. At several news events Gov. Patrick had to help her answer questions.The professor has taken as long as three months to answer questions from the news media. -NO vote for me.

Hello Katie,

You are overlooking KEY FACTS. They can be stubborn things.

Life is tough; - always has been. I hope your parents taught you to weigh, evaluate, and choose wisely. What you do with life’s opportunities and risks is YOUR business, not ours - and NOT the government's. It is NOT the job of the government to guarantee you a risk-free/debt-free soft landing.

If school will leave you with unacceptable debt, - re-evaluate.

Your 'rights' as a woman should be no different than ANY other person here. If you want a baby-free active sex life - pay the price. There are options.

BUT, if you want to kill an unborn child - don’t expect US to pay for it. Be PREPARED to live with a lifetime of guilt.

Mz. Warren is a horrible candidate - like so many Mass Democrats over the years. She lied for over 20 years about being a Cherokee, - JUST added the Delaware to the mix.

For 20 years there have been claims of fudged 'facts' in the book she wrote with Teresa A. Sullivan. Sullivan JUST RESIGNED as Prez of UnivVA.

Warren railed against Wall Street banks foreclosing homes, - as she and her family were flipping foreclosed homes. That's called hypocrisy! Do you want ANOTHER Mass hypocrite like Ted Kennedy in the Senate?

She and hubby make over $550. Hardly middle class!

Katie, it’s time to re-evaluate. Character, reputation, and credentials DO matter. Warren’s are all flawed at best, some totally phony.

Iron Mike
Save your testosterone for another target. Your lecture to Katie is very stale as it tries to revive issues that were hotly discussed last week. Yawn! Are you just emerging from a coma?

BC,
Facts are a terrible thing to waste.

Right on Iron Mike!
CS

CS

Agreed. Let's turn the page and focus on more current exciting stuff, like 41 condos on the highest point in town, and stop calling the old building the middle school. It was Swampscott High! Elizabeth Warren may be in favor of the low income housing units proposed for that development . Her spokesperson has not yet commented.

BC,
For the sake of argument. What if an individual bought the "old high school" parcel and put forth plans to build a 15, 000 square foot mansion, with a steeple as high as the current building, an outdoor swimming pool and a garage facility capable of storing 15 vintage autos. I'll bet the neighbors would be ticked at that also. Not in keeping with character of the neighborhood, etc. The Board of Selectmen spec'd out this RFP with plenty of opportunity for public input.
Move forward, this property will be developed, and Groom has put forth a great looking concept.
CS

The law requires certain review processes. The proposed development must conform to the rules as interpreted by the boards who are considering the proposal . Not sure how flexible the laws allow them to be. Should be a lot of sturm und drank on the horizon
Thanks for moving us forward with this topic

It is actually "sturm und DRANG" :-)

Thanks! My auto spell check has a real problem with German. The point remains that a lot of noise will surround this continued review. It could be a while, and the results are far from certain. Have a great week Alex